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Classic Car Fair looks after emails for numerous advertisers who are not on the net. For some time now there have been emails from outside NZ concerning buying these cars with payment by "cashiers check". Several owners who are looking after their own emails have also phoned and emailed their concerns.
Genuine buyers exist, of course, but beware if you are offered more than the asking price of your item, and asked to refund the difference, or pay for shipping or any other supposed expenses out of the difference. The cheque will invariably be a forgery, and the money you sent would be a real loss. If you did, that is, and so far no Classic Car Fair advertisers have.
Note that the method described here applies to any high-value item advertised anywhere on the net with the vendor's email address. Any website or newsgroup, any item worth a few dollars, or lira, pounds, any currency, any country. For the scammers, it is a full time job sending mass emails to advertisers worldwide. This warning has, for instance, helped an artist in the Netherlands [see below].
This page is updated at irregular intervals with some of the new attempts - see below, latest first. Not all are included, but all that are received here are traced and reported.
There are common factors - any combination:
1. Poor command
of English.
2. Urgency.
3. Payment proposed
to be by "cashier's check" for more than the advertised price.
4. Payment for
"shipping" to be deducted from the "cashier's check".
5. Arrangements
for delivery somewhere other than the inquirer's domicile - to "client"
etc.
6. The use of
free web-based email accounts. [Examples are shown below, especially Yahoo,
Myway, Fastermail, Keromail, and Outblaze.]
7. References
to Nigeria, well known as a base for net frauds [fewer lately].
8. Requests for
photos, even though all vehicles advertised on the site have photos.
Some other websites have posted warnings about these.
See article in Consumer
See Customs Dept issues scam warning
See this article from Wired Nigerian Net Scam, Version 3.0
See this warning from American Dream Cars
See Fossil Cars warning: http://www.fossilcars.com/scam_alert.html
See Urban Legends
See http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/
For auction scams see Scambusters
UK advertisers targeted - see Guardian article
The November 2004 issue of NZ Classic Car magazine has an article about the scam attempts described here, also worth reading.
Classic Car Fair advertisers are welcome
to forward any doubtful enquiries for analysis and verification. It will
help this process if you can include the full headers. Email
Subject: 1975 TRIUMPH 2.5
PI
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 06:08:29
-0700 (PDT)
From: powell james <powell_001_001@yahoo.com>
Dear seller,
Do you still have your Ad
For sale?kindly get back to me with last offer you i have on it i hope
to hear from you
Best regard
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From: ryan micheals
Sent: Monday, March 26,
2007 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: 1987 FORD FALCON
GL
Oh i am so glad to hear from
you this time,i really want to buy your 1987 FORD FALCON GL for my wife
who will be having her birthday next month .. As for the payment
like i told you i will be issueing you out a Cheque that you
can cash instantly in your bank,and as for the shipping i think i can get
a private shipping agent who will come pick up the car in your
location after payment. As for my shipping agent,right now he cant be located
cause he ships internationally of both cars and goods as his speciallization,for
there not to be delay in the shipping i was thinking i send both you and
my shipping agent money together on the cheque that will be
sent to you, on the Cheque it will be $10,000, when you have it cashed
instantly in your bank you can then remove yours $5,800 ,then send
the rest $4,200 to the shipping agent to wherever he may be via western
union ,thats when i must have locate him and let you know where he his
so he can use the money to buy his flight ticket and take his flight down
to your location to have the ford checked and picked up here and also the
jewerries i bought for my wife there in your location shipped here and
pay for the remaining balance ....Alright please reply me back as soon
as you get this message with your Full name, Home address, & cell #
too so i can proceed with payment Asap by my client..
.. N.B You can as well send
me pictures.
.. Thanks and God bless
you.
Management c/o R.Micheals
John & Robyn Della-Mura wrote:
I am in Auckland, NZ and my cell phone number is xxxxxxxxxxx if you are interested in this vehicle give me a call.
----- Original Message -----
From: ryan micheals
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:40 AM
Subject: 1987 FORD FALCON GL
hello ,
i saw the advert of your
1987 FORD FALCON GL on the net and i am much more interested in purchasing
for the cost of $5,800....i want buy it for my wife birthday coming
up soon, um you might be wondering about the shipping to our location,
but do not be bothered about that cause i have my own arrangement made
for the shipping, an international shipping agent who will come straight
down to your location to have it picked up, and as for the payment i will
be issuing a check out to you as my mode of payment . so i,ll like you
to mail me back as soon as you get this message and your full information
such as address,city,state and zip code also cell phone number so as to
contact you and send you the check in the right way ok, thanks and God
bless. my regards, please mail me back as soon as you get this message
Management
c/o R.Micheals ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:08:49
-0800 (PST)
From: lincon robert <lincon_robert2007@yahoo.com>
Subject: INTERESTED ON YOUR....................................1976
TRIUMPH 2.5
Good Day.
I`m interested in your (1976
TRIUMPH 2.5) it sound relatively new. Also can you send me the Pics of
this (1976 TRIUMPH 2.5)to me? At this point, i would like to register my
intention to purchase the (1976 TRIUMPH 2.5) as i will handle the shipping
and its cost to the uk through my registered and certified Shipping agent.
Is the (1976 TRIUMPH 2.5) still available for sale? Are you still interested
in selling it? Are there anymore information i need to know? What is your
LAST PRICE? Are there any defects that i need to know about? Are you the
FIRST OWNER? Please do get back to me as soon as possible.
Remain Bless,
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Date: 26 Jan 2007 01:01:16
-0000
Reply-To: "benson lawsen"
<ben_lawsen@rediffmail.com>
Subject: Triumph 2.5 overdrive
gearbox
Hello
I am benson lawsen from
madrid,spain i saw your mail that you are in need of the above subject
stated,i just want to used this
little words of mine to
let you know that i have it for sale,and still in a good condition, if
you need some pics of the item i can send them to you once i heard from
you so we can bargain price, please i only need a serious buyer and i do
accept check payment ,international money order and western union money
transfer where i will have my money in my possession before i will ship
the item to you so get back to me with your address were you want to ship
it to........
i do used spanishairfrieght
shipping company for shipping abroad so i can go to thier office once i
got the address where you will be shipping to so i can give you my least
price this is my number you feel free to contact me +34 494 77 88 994 i
will be expecting your call all write me back so we can discuss thanks
................................................................................
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:15:06
-0800 (PST)
From: Mr bobo maxwell <flourishmyway2007@yahoo.com>
Subject: McGREGOR MOTORSPORTS
MACH 7 V8
Hello Seller, I am interested
in your goods for sale and if it is still available for sale rapidly i
will be needing the belowin formation for the purchase of the goods such
as....
(1)Are you the owner
(2)Total selling price
(3)Engine condition
(4)Mechanic report
(5)Interior/exterior pictures.
I will be waiting for your
promptresponse as soon as you get this mail.
Thanks.
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My name is James Crabtree,am from the United States of America(Florida precisely) but right now am based in South Africa.While surfing through the net, i discovered your1959 Ford Costom 300 which you posted for sale and i am very much interested in it.I'll like you to get back to me as a matter of urgency with the last asking price price,present condition and pictures(if available) of the 1959 Ford Costom 300.Moreso,my mode of payment can only be by certified check or money order depending on which is okay with you.As for the shipping of the 1959 Ford Costom 300 ,i have my own shipping company that will take care of the payment concerning the shipping of the 1959 Ford Costom 300. I await your immediate response
regards
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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:30:02
-0800 (PST)
From: igartua colon <igartuacolon_hector@yahoo.com>
Subject: i will like to
purchase the car
hello. good day.
i saw this car in care of
you as the private owner and i will like to buy it for my son. i am from
porto-rico and i will want to deal with a trusted person. kindly let me
know your payment term so i can arrange for the payment immediately. i
will be waiting to hear from you immediately.
regards,
Pastor igartua colon hector.
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Hello,
I will like to know if you still have the" 1934 PACKARD SUPER EIGHT " placed on the web for sale and if yes,kindly get back to me with the following
1.Lowest Prize
2.Present Condition
3.Picture if available
Notice: I am please to inform you that i will be taken care of the shipping by sending my shipping agent for immediate pick up from your location as soon as you recieved payment confirmation.
Thank you regard
phillip mcmilan
10/46 The Esplanade,
Ettalong Beach. NSW.
Australia. 2257.
Two approaches reported from this scammer:
From: charles mccloud [mailto:charles.mccloud@Safe-mail.net]
Sent: Thursday, 28 December
2006 1:19 p.m.
Subject: Price?????
Hello Sir,
Am interested in your car
for sale. Pls let me have the last asking price for the car after which
my engineer will later come down for the inspection and shippment of the
car from your location in NZ to my destination. Though am presently in
Europe presently but will retire bcak to NZ in few months time which is
why i need the car for myself and family. Hope to hear from you immediately.
Regards.
Charles.
Hi There,
I have had an email from
'Anita Brain'. Thank you for your information on your website as this order
could have gone very wrong. The email you have in your examples is
almost word for word to the one I was sent.
Thanks again, Have a great
Christmas
Annabelle Rose
Customer Service Representative
Ready Made Blinds NZ Ltd
Yohana Chintia,Medan,Indonesia
Email autocar@mymotogear.com
Phone 626130067031
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:58:21
-0500
Subject: Re: Indo fraud
Dear Neil,
Thank you for taking the initiative to try to stop this person. He/she has advertised on several websites, including www.collectorcartraderonline.com. I have communicated with collectorcartrader.com and they were very responsive in canceling his ads. He/she has been advertising several of my cars for more than 6 months.
Regards,
Ivan Ruiz
www.thecarnut.com
From: Shayne Murray [mailto:shaynemurray02@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, 15 December
2006 10:27 p.m.
Subject: 1964 ROVER 110
Dear Seller,
I am interested in finding
out more information about your listing.I would like to know more about
[describe any information
or questions you might have
here],Provide photos and state final asking price.I will like to hear from
you as soon as
possible.So that could process
right away with payment.
Awaiting your response.
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Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:39:49
-0800 (PST)
From: tanko shearer <tankoshearer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Classic Car Fair
Dear Sir/Madam,
Goodmorning,am Mrs Anita Brain from christchurch.I
need a Used honda car for my
company in Ghana and will like to know
if you currently have Used honda car
instock. As for the shippemnt,i have already
talked to an international shipping agency
who will take care of shipping.Also
i will like your terms of payment.Do
you accept Master cards?.Please get back
to me as soon as possible so that
we can proceed with the order. Have
a nice day.
Thanks
Mrs Anita Brain.
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:30:44
-0800 (PST)
From: tanko shearer <tankoshearer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Classic Car Fair
Dear Sir,
Goodmorning,am Dr.Martin Cosmos from Bradenton florida.I
need a Car for my company in Ghana
and will like to know if you
currently have any Car instock. As for the
shippemnt,i have already talked to an
international shipping agency who will take
care of that.Also i will like your
terms of payment.Do you accept Master
cards?.Please get
back to me as
soon as possible so that we can
proceed with the order. Have a nice day.
Thanks
Dr.Martin Cosmos.
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From: Bryan owen <bryanowensinvestment@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: I AM INTERESTED
IN YOUR 1939 VAUXHALL J - NEW ZEALAND'S BEST
Hello,
I am interested in
making direct purchase from you due to your advert FOR SALE i saw on the
internet while searching.Kindly provide me with your BEST OFFER FOR
SALE. As regards payment, My client will be able to arrange for you a BANK
CERTIFIED CHEQUE OR MONEY ORDER as a mode of payment.If its still available
for sale,
We are located here in Dublin and canm be reached on :+44-701-112-1769
kindly get back to me. Thanks
and God bless,
Bryan Owens.
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:20:33
+0100 (BST)
From: maracha leon <maracha_leon@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: URGENT REPLY................McGREGOR
MOTORSPORTS MACH 7 V8
Hello Seller,
Good day mr/ mrs how is the family over there, i saw your advert on the net about to sell your car and i am interested in buying from you,please i 'll also the last price, i talked to my manager concerning this car , which he has also showned so much interest and made me understand that it'll be fine for our marketing.Therefore, i will advice that you take of the advert from the net,since i am pleased with what i saw, and i am really ready to buy from you,i will be very greatfull if you consider me and give me the chance to buy from you. Thanks for your anticipated cooperations, i look forward to hearing from you, soonest.
Best Regards....
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:59:33
-0700 (PDT)
From: Daniel Job <danieljob17@yahoo.com>
Subject: 1976 TRIUMPH 2000
Hello,
I don't mind getting the
Item for the price because it worth the price and I think I am pleased
with it. I will like you to know that Payment would be through a certified
european cashier's cheque or bank draft, the payment is also going to be
including with the shippment money so as soon as you have the funds you
send the balance to the shipper that will be incharge of the shipment.through
my associate in the U.S.A. Because I do not have cash presently and would
not like to loose the purchase item and also avoid delay because of the
urgency in need of it. Kindly give me the [1] your name that is going to
be writting on the check
[2] your address that the
check is going to be forwarded to.
[3] your phone number.
[4] your last offer.
Also you will not be in-care
of the shipment to my country, because I have a trusted International shipper
that I have been using for the past 18 years that will come for the pick-up
of the goods in your location after payment has been confirmed by you.
Please make sure you do everything t o make the purchase as clean as it
was mention. Please any other interested parties tell them it has been
sold.
My Regards to you and your
family.
Daniel
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:18:17
-0700 (PDT)
From: desmond eliot <desmondeliotgold@yahoo.com>
Subject: 1976 TRIUMPH
2000
Hello...sir / madam
Thanks for the advert, Pls
what is your firm price and also attach atleast 2 recent pics of the vehicle
.
Thanks once again for the
advert......
desmond
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:09:46
-0700 (PDT)
From: Ruddy Bishop <ruddybuzhome@yahoo.com>
Subject: McGREGOR MOTORSPORTS
MACH 7 V8
Hello Seller,
Good
day mr/ mrs how is the family over there, i saw your advert on the net
about to sell your car and i am interested in buying from you,please
i 'll like to know the present condition of the car and also the last price,
i talked to my manager concerning this
car, which he has also showned
so much interest and made me understand that it'll be fine for our marketing.Therefore,
i will advice that you take of the advert from the net,since i am pleased
with what i saw, and i am really ready to buy from you,i will be very greatfull
if you consider me and give me the chance to buy from you. Thanks for your
anticipated cooperations, i look forward to hearing from you, soonest.
Regards
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:35:17
-0700 (PDT)
From: doris kate <d_kate05@yahoo.com>
Subject: Classic Car Fair
Hello,
I am interested in
your advertised Classic Car Fair been posted on the ad.I will like
to know the below details before proceeding.
1.Its present condition
2,Selling price
3,Pictures if available.
I will be expecting to read from you as soon as possible.
Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:32:21
-0700 (PDT)
From: OWEN Ford <ford_owen02@yahoo.com>
Subject: Classic Car Fair
ad for Mach 7 V8
Dear Sir/Ma,
I am a Car Dealer from UK
with clients all over West African countries and UK cities, we also run
many Cars show rooms in some African cities and London towns. I have cars
rentals in most UK Cities. I have a client who's interested in your lovely
Car and also willing to pay me anything i charged to bring it to his lovely
home, you are to send me some picture via email attachment. Infant
he would love it to be part of the family for his wife birthday coming
up soon. It's a secret gift for his wife.
I will need to know some
certain things about the car, please reply with the following.
Price
The Mileage
The Interiors
Leather Upholstery
Automatic
The Engine condition
Full Service History
Petrol or Diesel
Air Conditioning
Power Steering
ABS
Alarm
Tow Bar
Classic Car
Electric Windows
Stereo
Sun Roof
Left Or Right Hand Drive
You are to please get back
to me soon with your final asking price, name, address and telephone
number so
we can proceed with shipping.
I will handle the shipping and delivery with my shipper
If you have any question
or enquiry to make concerning this transaction,
You can reach me on phone
number +447031861368
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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:56:58
-0700 (PDT)
From: jack pharrel <j_pharrel234@yahoo.com>
Subject: Triumph 2000 ....
Goodday,
i will like to know if you
have the( Triumph )placed on the internet yet on sale and if yes
kindly get back to me with the present condition and your last offer prize
for this is need for immediate replacement..
thank you.
Jack Pharrel.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 03:18:43
-0700 (PDT)
From: AUTO BALANCE <autobalancey2k@yahoo.com>
Subject: YOUR ADVERTISED
VEHICLE THAT IS FOR SELL PLZ!!!
HELLO,
AM YUSUPH
AHMED FROM SPAIN, PLEASE I WILL LIKE TO BUY YOUR ADVERTISED VEHICLE THAT
YOU ARE SELLING, KINDLY GET BACK TO ME WITH THE PICS AND THE PRICE YOU
WILL LIKE TO SELL THE VEHICLE PROVIDED IS STILL FOR SELL, YOUR QUICK RESPONSE
WILL BE HIGHLY NEEDED. THANKS AND GOD BLESS
BEST
REGARDS
MR YUSUPH AHMED
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From: "YUSUF AHMED" <autobalancey2k@hotmail.com>
Subject: YOUR AVDERTISED
VEHICLE THAT IS FOR SELL !!!
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:17:11
+0100
HELLO,
AM YUSUPH
AHMED FROM SPAIN, PLEASE I WILL LIKE TO BUY YOUR ADVERTISED VEHICLE THAT
YOU ARE SELLING, KINDLY GET BACK TO ME WITH THE PICS AND THE PRICE YOU
WILL LIKE TO SELL THE VEHICLE PROVIDED IS STILL FOR SELL, YOUR QUICK RESPONSE
WILL BE HIGHLY NEEDED. THANKS AND GOD BLESS
BEST REGARDS
MR YUSUPH AHMED
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:33:39
-0700 (PDT)
From: smith jelly <smith_jelly005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Has Regards Your
Car
Hello Seller, i saw
your car on the web and i would like to get it i will like to inquire if
your car is in good
condition and aslo the cost
of your car and your mode of paymnet so that i can purchase your car kindly
get
back to me with the total
cost of your car and your mode of payment Thanks and await your mail soonest
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Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 16:44:42
-0700 (PDT)
From: gannay moore <gannay_moore@yahoo.com>
Subject: McGREGOR MOTORSPORTS
MACH 7 V8
Hello
How are you today Hope all
is well with you i will like to buy your item from you So i will like to
know your Best offer got the item and also to know if you are the owner
of the item I look forward to read from you soonest
Gannay
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Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 03:28:54
-0700 (PDT)
From: bob john <bob_john2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: 1978 TRIUMPH 2000
TC
HELLO SELLER,
HOW YOU DOING TODAY HOPE YOU DOING WELL. AM MR BOB FROM POLAND A CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER BY PROFESSION.... I SAW THE ADVERT OF YOUR 1978 TRIUMPH 2000 TC FOR SALE SO AM HIGHLY INTRESTED IN IT ...... SO I WILL WANT YOU TO TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE DOG AND YOUR MEANS OF PAYMENT AND PLEASE DONT BE BOTHER ABOUT THE SHIPPING OF THE1978 TRIUMPH 2000 TC MY SHIPPER WILL HANDLE THAT..... HOPE TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU SOON.
THANKS
BOB.
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:56:57
-0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Featherston <markston49@yahoo.com>
Subject: Classic Car Fair
ad for Triumph 2000
I have some enquiries to
make,i want to know the car history report, and send the recent picture
(i)Number of previous owners. (ii)Why you are selling the car? Then advice
asap
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From: martins [mailto:martinsstojjre3@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, March 17,
2006 10:51 AM
Subject: Carfair Enquiry
Hello,
Is your car still for sell.If
it is for sell write me back and tell me the last asking price.Meanwhile,my
client said he will be paying using American cashier check.
Best regards, Martins.
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